Board Thread:Chapter Discourse/@comment-2A02:A03F:5AEB:EA00:C5CF:AFFD:C7C:8FC8-20190802224004/@comment-36009152-20190828171324

Unfortunately think we can count on Mahiru-no-Yo being serious about betraying everyone, would probably do it for her own fun as well. Yet she seems convinced it’s part of her plan (maybe, could always be the Noya side having taken over more than expected).

Could offer that Krul could be approached since she was somewhat unique among vampires for retaining some human feelings, those for her brother. (Mahiru may have learned this from Saito). Also bear in mind vampire Krul may have gotten tired of life, having the same vampire indifference to matters, but as human she could regain those feelings and of course would have Ashera again.

It’s a good thought but not sure about Mika becoming a human again, think it’s leading to the whole Mika is a vampire, and that’s fine he can be anything he wants and it will be fine because it is him. Then again he will likely be similar to Yu, if he separates from Asuramaru then Mika could also become human again soon (a seraph form could made to appear either way).

If Guren was waiting for Saito to arrive knowing he could capture the first then Guren’s let’s betray everyone could mean his friends, betraying them for Saito’s sake. Also meaning Saito is not the target of Guren’s betrayal… unless he is, no idea how it can swing at this point XD

Think it’s not the connection but the strength of a vampire that determines whether they can sense demons, or ‘ghosts’. Good point about Krul obviously not wanting a glimpse, if she is doing this then Ashera has to come and stay back.

Wonder if human feelings would give them a reason to live if vampires were changed back? Alternatively if they make Ferid and Crowley realise what has happened in their past, would these revelations be detrimental for them… oh and if Krul and Mika have the Mikaela trait could be another case for them surviving further.

Do not want anything bad to happen to Guren, but horribly from a story telling perspective the author may have a bad fate for Guren, with Yu having the nice outcome to cover both grounds theme wise. Horrible for Guren though and hope it is remembered he is not a literary device but a person who deserves a fair outcome. Having written that sure the latter will be the case, Seraph of the End has done it’s characters well so far and never been any suspension of disbelief, Guren will be fine! Willing it XD Also bear in mind how Attack on Titan handles its timers on certain characters. Yes they are independent works but editors are aware of what works in a story so if one does one thing, the other can do the same (if it’s a good idea that resonates well with people) or another… or even another if each author has their stories set in stone… which they kind of both do… not sure XD

That is one good question, what exactly was in it for Mahiru. Following one major scheme, maybe she just liked the thrill of it, absolutely cannot be blamed for that, and yet she would have her own goals likely independent of anyone else’s. Her love for Guren is sweet, and yet too easy to guess! And yet so long as she is with close people around her, good!

Krul keeping the Hyakuya Sect’s seraphs around may be a part of her plan, if seraphs factor into the resurrection. More likely though she did not know the complete significance of them (hence why they were free to wander around Sanguinem that does not exactly have the best health and safety records what with ledges and vampires about) and just left them to their own devices in case any of her business partners came for them.

Removing the first who has haunted her own family for centuries is another reason though more likely Shinoa’s safety also came first. As for the vampires, another large scale extinction scale event isn’t a good sign for anyone… and yet living happily or not, everyone in this series may just be happy surviving XD

(LauraTepes  you gave excellent details as well! Shared it in this Discussions post, hope others can add their inputs with the window of time available!)