Board Thread:Chapter Discourse/@comment-43813832-20191030190334/@comment-36009152-20191103062851

Yu’s reaction to what Guren done to Mirai will be vital, it would absolutely be a case of Mika told him so and could realistically result in Yu and Mika breaking away from Guren and throwing in with Krul or something.

LauraTepes wrote: Guren ISN'T the protagonist of this story. The comment had the prequel novels Catastrophe at 16 in mind where Guren is in the world before the apocalypse (most people are more familiar with the main manga of course, but events are being tied into). The this is Guren’s story was a thinking out loud comment, a good way of explaining it is: “it’s Beyonce’s world and we’re just living in it”. Now the planet is not literally Beyonce’s world, it’s a figure of speech to big her up basically and commend someone for their achievements in a way. Same here, it is not literally Guren’s story, absolutely Seraph of the End has an incredible cast, everyone with their own backgrounds and paths, it was just an observation that Guren is currently calling a lot of the shots in that he can decide how things can turn out. He can spare his squad, Guren can attack the first, have his own plan to overcome Saito’s betrayal, Guren is right now the one to watch with what he is doing and can do hence the comment with him in recent chapters.

Agree with the general consensus that many people have been uncertain of what to really make of Guren considering his actions throughout the story, and yet this situation with Mirai is a turning point for the worse. It is comparable to Ferid murdering the orphans, an act so cruel that there is and cannot be any justification for it and cannot be something to come back from. If Guren is being an anti-hero and having to perform evil deeds to make it right in the end, that’s probably a reader question on whether the ends justify the means, but ultimately even if not it’s a sign of the times that Guren probably would not care. Like he said to Shinoa after she found out her sister was in Guren’s cursed gear that he would not mind if Shinoa did kill him, Guren’s kind of dead on the inside. In his mind he may save the world and be executed for his crimes or something, he would be indifferent.

Completely agree with the many and varied characters and themes of the series, they are the extra good strengths of Seraph of the End overall. It seems grief is also a theme; it was horrible after everything Mirai went through for it to end like that when she was being rescued. Even if resurrection were a possibility is it a bandaid for someone being murdered, and yes what about the vampires and demons. Everyone, humans especially have their good and bad sides, who gets to decide on who gets resurrected?

Truly hope Mirai is or will be all right, still no excuse for attacking her with a sword. Also unfortunately it’s clear we are seeing a full demon in control of his powers and it’s ruthless in the most awful manner.

2602:304:4D9C:7299:A447:667:9FD5:95A5 wrote: Montell Riles(me): in chapter 84 of my childhood Seraph of the end(Owari no Seraph) anime series, those tiny fragments inside of people who has the seraph gene, if those can Stop Shikamadoji Was wondering how the question of rescuing Shinoa would happen, and, sure let’s call them keys for short, they do actually seem to be… the key XD to restraining the first so hopefully there will at least be a chance to extract her as well.

Also a very good thought on who the titular princess is, honestly hope it concerns the ‘birth’ of Mirai, like the seraph could have been stabbed/subdued (same as Shinya with his demon), the key taken and that’s Mirai back free from the seraph? That would be fine, whichever route has her alive.

This depends if Guren is acting as a demon doing what he feels it takes to win, but can we all agree if Guren does extract the first from Shinoa, only stabbed Mirai to get the seraph out of her and she’s okay, then all will be forgiven in this situation and that would be perfect? Think we need something to will for what with all the bleakness of a man losing himself to a demon and doing terrible things XD

A neutral view is good to take, it is upsetting what happened we should acknowledge it, yet don't think Kimizuki would be too displeased to find Mirai waking up from unconsciousness and no longer in pain from the seraph effects. Maybe patience is beneficial before condemning someone when we do not yet have the full picture.

A brief side area, a layout question if anything, does everyone find the blogs easy to access and navigate through? People in particular AquilaeAltair are posting phenomenal content yet maybe those reading prefer just that rather than commenting, perhaps the forum is simply more user friendly, maybe the nature of blogs just simply don't invite people to take part. Blogs are theoretically a great place to secure theories and insights, and they are, but everyone please do share on how you would like to see the platform developed more. The more areas to document what we can observe in the series the better, and yet the formats need to be right don’t they if others are to be comfortable taking part. So sure any feedback to make things better, share away.

Anyway, the good news is Mahiru is the first being to acknowledge that it is Shinoa (like Kimizuki didn’t seem to see anything out the blue with Shinoa randomly speaking to newcomer for him, Saito). It would be a problem if miraculously they succeeded in restraining the first but no one knew how to get Shinoa back, but at least Mahiru has that in mind.

The keys were also a good insight into the power level of Shikama Doji, one needed for Saito, three for the first. Oh, and Saito is aware of the first’s complete body and apparently him inside Shinoa isn’t it, so would love to see where that leads.

It’s an interesting chapter in that it may be a the night is darkest just before dawn, at least can only hope it ends with Mirai and Shinoa being okay. If the first is, sealed in the weapon again? All the better.

Holding out for hope things can be made all right... truly if the nastiness of this chapter can be alleviated then whatever eases that will be welcome.