User blog comment:AquilaeAltair/OnS Theories. Eighteenth Theory & Character Analysis - Urd Geales, a vampire that is looking for a way to put an end to the catastrophic world they’re in or is he a vampire that will follow Sika Madu again?/@comment-36009152-20190609140715

Urd is indeed quite the Interesting one on so many levels! Seraph of the End seems to have a fair few counterparts of sorts, from squads to individual people: Yu and Mika, Krul and Lest Karr, maybe the same with the second progenitors Urd and Saito. This is going along the lines that Saito has his long terms plans, so Urd does as well and they are being saved for later?

Being an unusually calm guiding force over vampires is impressive. As Kureto said, vampires largely stick to themselves, and like Krul and Lest Karr demonstrate tensions can easily boil over into power struggles which do not help anyone where they are concerned. Urd has always chosen something more than strife and conflict so he has a well founded track record of wanting to put an end to catastrophes.

This theory is nice since it touches upon the humanity retained in vampires. This is even better to consider when it is of the second progenitor type, and Urd! First, this relates to Krul but I think it is a give away that there is more to her thinking than what she shared with other vampires. Say that because I cannot see why Krul would withhold the information or not tell him outright. Urd is not exactly a maniac, Krul declined to inform him of the situation, and fed something only because she had to but that was not the full story and she has something else planned.

In any case back to Urd having an attachment to the first progenitor. Do hope it progresses in that direction, whilst Krul has un-removable inner connections for her brother, Urd may be the same. It may not be to to a person in a familial type of way, rather with Urd it is an attachment to what something once was. It must have been nice for humanity, in that time period to have an unimaginable leap forward with the magical based powers up for grabs. It was also an inconceivable dream made reality. Sika Madu, Urd they were essentially gods among men once vampires. Immortality, healing from would be lethal injuries not to mention the physical power that would keep them as semi ultimate beings forever really. Even with the advent of cursed gear there is no touching them without one heck of a fight.

It would be more pronounced for Urd, a second progenitor, someone truly important with only someone he knew, Sika Madu above. Then of course it is a mentality where Urd maybe did see him as a god, and he himself had power so was likely expecting some truly drastic advancements made. Only Sika Madu was after playing god but Urd maybe thought they could have had something more than that. Won’t pretend to now how Urd feels or thinks, can only offer that perspective. It cannot be easy to actually attain the dream but you and others do not ride into what should be a glorious sunset and suddenly you are an ancient vampire noble where everything is nice, but it could have been so much better. If only Sika Madu was the shining light Urd maybe expected him to be to make such a better future. It would mean more to Urd with his background as well.

Speculation and inserting oneself in another’s shoes, your evidence is a better thing to go on. Wonder if Urd deep down feels the first is calling to them, they know he can conceal his presence yet has ‘awakened’/given an awareness he is still around many times. Would need to decide if the first time Urd felt the presence of the first and his reaction is a clue he has any ties to him. There is a big difference between “oh good you are still here” and “oh my goodness you are still here!” XD

This sadness would be key, perhaps Urd knows deep down Saito’s efforts are futile, implying maybe that Urd has already taken drastic measures in the past to draw the firsts attention. Would agree with you, along the lines that Urd’s connection to the first seems to come from a deep and sincere sense of awe. Such sheer wonder to the point of veneration would not be at all surprising. It is all the more thorough if it is not just from what Sika Madu could achieve, but pulling them out of sorry circumstances they may have been in. Everyone there may like a hero who does make things better for them.

You know thinking out the blue, I really don’t think Urd would even mind being a pawn to the first. It may have established the vampire hierarchy and the attached elitism but if it were done along the lines of “we are this or this rank, this is how useful we can be to the first and his goals”, I could see that in Urd. Like with army soldiers ranks are not about snobbery, simply yes we are pawns but for practical good reasons. Commanders have overviews of areas, in war we don’t sit and ask why, soldiers, vampires carry out orders, time is of the essence. A funky oxymoron, a robotic like entity being a pawn and following orders but that attitude is part of the human emotions. Sure that can work, if Urd does feel like a pawn it’s based on ties to Sika Midu for saving and giving them the future in it’s entirety.

Melancholic may be the word if Urd cannot quite articulate why he feels sad about the first’s conduct if that is the case. His actions say a lot, again would not presume but en route to Tokyo, maybe Urd just needs to see to understand. Simply speak or have some closure maybe. He has been delayed by an incredibly large scale missile attack on his helicopter platoon. Always the chance that for all his haste, Urd could be denied the questions he wanted to ask with Guren and teams, Saito and the Hyakauya Sect all in the picture.

If he were considering a battle with the first, Urd has a promising sortie: Lest Karr, Krul Tepes (presumably he is assured she is definitely with him) and Ky Luc among what must be an elite guard, if they survived. With such company, bringing this squad does not give the impression he wants a friendly chat with the first. Or it could do, having such friends to allow a greater chance you could get a few words in is a good plan.

Maybe Urd see’s this as a one in a multi lifetime shot at solving the problem of the first gone awry, before he can turn his attention to the growing problem of armed and dangerous humans. They have seraphs now, able to sack capital cities. Urd would recognise the serious problem but with the first on his own and still in a not fully developed state, now is the time to defeat the first whilst Urd can. This would be a very shrewd move of the ruler of vampires to stop them being clamped by their now deadly livestock at one end, to their sire and creator at the other end.

Though calm and in control, Urd has grown accustomed to absolute power being the de factor ruler of vampire kind for a long time. Deep down would he want to lose that? It is possible he is identifying the first as a rival that needs to go since Urd has no intent of losing his peak vantage point. At that without a first, Urd resumes being the one others flock to and follow, no questions asked.

The landscape has changed drastically once more. The four horseman have vanished, that is a significant threat to the human species gone so they are free to live wherever they like and expand now. Further, humans have the means to achieve the disappearance of these beings, and of course the seraphs and cursed gear. Whether Urd would see vampires place in the world as a battle against extinction against the humans may factor into whether he allies with the first or not.

What we currently have is a possibility Urd is bringing a team, a horrifically powerful one to combat the first. That would be a first significant obstacle dealt with for Urd to then focus fully on the joint human threat with their power amassed out of nowhere. Also vampires like Saito who is on the attack, and possibly Krul who may have something else up her sleeves. They would all need to be dealt with for this second progenitor, a force in his own right to resume his total control over vampires, humans the lot since with the first gone Urd would truly be the all-powerful being.

At least Urd intends to rule in a workable way which might reaffirm in his mind that he is acting out of a noble duty. Urd could be forgiven for viewing himself a saviour against a malevolent deity, humans hell-bent on tampering with forbidden experiments and stopping the world become further ruined. With total order and no destructive forces about, Urd would truly be a vampire - one of the few searching for and finding a way to restore the catastrophic world everyone is caught in.

Then there is the opposite!



Serving the first out of a desire for power is one thing, but your suggestion that they have a common tie in retaining a human emotion is a key deciding factor. As we say, Krul, Mika, deeply rooted singular feelings towards something can take precedence over other vampire based emotions no matter how potent they are. Hinting at Urd’s feelings, that he focuses on that the first will not look at them, this may be the clue being given that the second part of your theory is correct. Like the points about corresponding with humanity as well, family is a significant theme in Seraph of the End. Being sired by and having a close link with the first may hold more weight to Urd than we currently realise.

Based on that I’ll offer the second scenario: Urd is bringing vampires to at least ensure he can get close enough to interact with the first to reveal his true intent and plans. Worst case Urd intends to offer his party, and all others as sacrifices or something to ensure the first can regain true full power, which would be insane!

Out of practicality, Urd will join the first and fight under him simply because humans have become too powerful with cursed gear and seraphs, they are organised as well. That and serious competition from his fellow second progenitor Saito, Urd needs the first and fast really, what other options are there to survive in the short and long terms?

In conclusion, the main reason for joining the first is not just one of survivability or asserting power once more. It could be because Urd simply misses what he had with the first. The wonder at being truly strong, achieving the unthinkable dreams and the sadness it all went wrong will cause Urd to try anything to gain that back and resume the true glorious path Urd wanted to walk.

Vampires can grow weary of life, why on earth would Urd want to re-rule as he done before? No, but a shot at getting what Urd truly desired deep down, the future with him and the power of the first leading the way...

Yes would definitely count on Urd being out to follow Sika Madu once more.