Board Thread:Chapter Discourse/@comment-30241447-20190903194959/@comment-36009152-20191001050803

50.116.46.244 wrote: Krul forced Mika to turn to a vampire!!!!! That wasn't Mika's own decision!!! Mika wanted to die but Krul made him a vampire for her selfish reasons and to can USE Mika!!! LauraTepes wrote: Mika found himself in the same place as Guren and he also was turned in a vampire which makes him go though worse things than Guren. Seems there are the two of you in agreement! Mika forcibly being turned into a vampire must have been quite the awful situation for him to be in. The thing is Guren is a different person with what his childhood has been like, plus different drastic scenarios that no one should have to experience.

that was Shigama and Saito's plan for destruction of the world and Guren was only a victim and that's all and too obvious and furthere more that damnly catastrophe was going to happen whethere Guren was going to use seraph or not Also a good case for this, Guren as a manipulated puppet casts him in a different light than before. Can he be blamed for wanting his friends back and in Guren's frame of mind after his upbringing and knowing the world was going to end anyway, was he bad for resurrecting them?

Then, either way can this change seeing how he reacts to what happened now with a clear head?

These are some good topics to discuss if we are to understand characters motives properly, keeping up the good points is a best idea!