Board Thread:Chapter Discourse/@comment-44056425-20200106151313/@comment-43971605-20200124141516

Crimson lotus ichinose wrote: Anon·chan wrote: Crimson lotus ichinose wrote: To be honest Mika had completely obsessed with Yuu

I believe that if that was Yuu the one who had destroyed the world then Mika was going to say: It's fine!!! As this is Yuu-chan then it is ok!!

But for Guren: HE IS A MOTHER FUCKER!!!

Mika had just became too obsessed with Yuu that can't even see the same mistake at the same time

Who said that Yuu as a demon can be a friend?! ://

But for Mika it is ok as he is Yuu-chan!!!

Just like: Guren a demon is bad and is no friend!! But ok Yuu-chan always different and if even someday he will be devil, again that's ok!! As he is Yuu-chan!!

Mika is so like Mikasa on AOT, both of them had just obsessed SO much by those whom they love (Eren and Yuu) so they can't accept the truth and reality about them

And if that was any force for Yuu then that was the same force for Guren too

Did we forget chapter 82 that easily? Guren really was forced to become a demon as all his family and furthermore all the remind humanity was in danger as Shikama was ready to finish everything so for fighting a demon like Shikama Guren forced to turn to a demon and he didn't do this for fun and joke so there is NO DIFFERENCE between Yuu and Guren even in this simple case

Anymore different now?! Yeah i completely disagree. Mika has called out Yu for his nonsense plenty of times in the manga, more so than anyone else. And Mika has shown that he is against world destruction regardless who's doing it. Even when Yu said he'd give up the world for Mika to become human again, Mika was quick to reject and told him no. Mika is against the second resurrection plan Guren had, not just because it involved Yu but another possible apocalypse...again (which is a valid concern). To say Mika's SO obsessed with Yu that he is blind to Yu's faults is... false.

Also, from what i recall, Yu never used anyone important to Mika for his own needs and plans. Guren on the other hand has done all of that....which is why Mika doesn't see Guren as a friend. Well let's imagine that was Yuu the one who had destroyed the world ok? Then what was Mika was going to say after finding it out? I promise you that he was going to forgive him really as he is Yuu-chan after all!!! Nope. He would not say that at all. In fact that would be SUPER out of character for Mika. Mika would be disappointed, heartbroken, and furious with Yu. He'd probably even leave Yu if we REALLY wanna go down the deep end. He'd probably try to reason it, but i doubt Mika will ever forgive Yu. Saying that he will "forgive Yu really easily" is undermining his character a lot. If Mika were to react that way, that is simply because of Kagami's lazy writing, not his actual character.

Crimson lotus ichinose wrote:

And furtheremore as maybe more than 99% Yuu wasn't a human from the begening of his current birth then there is no such a thing as abusing you knwo?! And furtheremore Guren had said million times that he didn't do anything to Yuu and this isn't his experiments and we all saw that yes he was right that was all Shikama's experiments and palns and we all know that the Hyakuya sect had started the experiments and Guren on that time was 16 so he couldn't have any hands on it and something he told to Shinoa that he did that to Yuu was a coplete lie just like when he said: Yes I was the one who killed your sister although we all know that Mahiru killed by herswlf not Guren!!! Are you saying that, because Yu probably wasnt fully human to begin with, he never was used or hurt..? Im confused with what you are saying here. Btw i never said Guren started EVERYTHING (of course Shikama and the Hyakuya Sect are the full blame for that), but took part in it much later, thus, he did do stuff to Yu. Even if this isnt Guren's experiment, Mika is valid not to trust him instantly.

Crimson lotus ichinose wrote:

And again we still don't know anything of new light novel: World resurrection at 19 and Guren's true plan

And you mean using others, ok then do you except Guren to tell his friends about their death and kill them??!!

He is FORCING to use his friends as he wants to save them isn't it easy to see?

So know anymore different?! Right, we dont know Guren's "true" plan yet. But the one im getting now is from the current info we got from the manga.

I wasnt talking about Guren's squad when it came to using people Mika cared about, i understand why Guren is doing that and think its fine (he isnt even really using them!). i was talking about Yu, the main person Mika does care about. Which Guren DID use. Thus, as i have said, it is understandable that Mika doesnt see him as a friend.