Board Thread:Chapter Discourse/@comment-30241447-20190903194959/@comment-36009152-20190907135947

NejiHyuga2 wrote:

... I hate you so much right now (LOL).

Yuu needs to do something. He's been useless for like, what, the last five chapters? The thing is it is the type of stunt Seraph of the End would pull XD and poor Yu, he's all noble putting himself on the line hoping his memories are able to help Shinoa only to be taken out of comission entirely! But thankfully Mika has found him, oh and Krul may just be around the corner!

LauraTepes wrote: He choose a path of darkness to achieve his goals which is never good. I know that he has got though a lot of things,but not to blame him for the catastrophe and just to say"it would happen in any case if you wouldn't do it"isn't an excuse for what Guren did.Some of you will say that Guren didn't have a choice,but that is not true.There is always a good way how to end things.His selfishness is so big that it ruined his whole character. Hold the phone XD when you have lost everything and just want your close ones back after experiencing what Guren had, doubt deep moral lessons on what is right or wrong would factor in Guren's mind at all in his state. Yu said it well, become a demon, anything to defend what matters namely their important people. We are missing the point if we sit here thinking "bad Guren, the mechanically 'right' decision is so easy to see" XD obviously choosing a path of darkness is never good, but preferable for characters who are not in the business of seeing people die horribly - no one chooses the path for fun, but because the alternative is worse.

Maybe not fully the case for Guren, but Guren has and kept his heart. The event troubled him deeply, and turns out the apocalypse was going to happen anyway. If it had to happen and at least Guren could regain his friends, well then his decision is more easy to understand. What would Guren say "the apocalypse is going to happen but at least I wasn't the one responsible, yay me" or "the apocalypse is going to happen but at least I can get my friends back if I push a button that is going to be pushed anyway" - and the decision haunts him regardless.

It is what it is story wise and Guren has his twists and turns depending on which part of him is involved with what. What is great is he has rejected Mahiru-no-Yo's encouragement to lose himself in his demon form so his squad are okay for now.

AquilaeAltair wrote: he's not selfish in a way of not taking into account others but he's tired of everything. Keeping his friends away from his secrets was the only thing that kept him as a human.

I personally think his character is well made This is it, but hope Guren can overcome the weight of the world on top of him as well : ) Guren should never be resented, especially when compared to other characters who absolutely warrant the bad vibes XD