Thread:S3r0-Ph1i/@comment-106.68.146.7-20190819053334/@comment-2601:544:C180:1E4C:70EB:FEDD:B18E:D90C-20190822164915

(CPD here) Honestly, as nice as it sounds on paper, unfortunately, we just can't form a centralized server and try to negotiate things between us and them. We had our issues, which we explained, that we weren't willing to budge on, they had their issues that they were even less willing to budge on, (As in they fully were not willing to cooperate in any matters regarding their roles in the new server not having full administrative permissions) and we already were unable to reach a mutual ground. Additionally, after having been told that we would politely decline their demands, and that we would be happy and willing to continue as a separate entity floating in the void, and offered to help them build up their server and their community, their response was to escalate things beyond the initial rudeness, and stoop to namecalling, further insults, We told them multiple times to cool their jets, and yet they continued, until it reached a point where we had to take disciplinary action and were forced to kick them from our server. Heck, even after being kicked from our server, bc I was still in theirs they could still message me to escalate it even further and insult me *personally,* before outright banning me from their server, with a solid (and this is a direct cut and past quote) "Welp. I'll go ahead and delete your existence in all servers we share now. Congrats" I should add that about 90% of the insults thrown at my members, my moderators, and myself were of the maturity level of a kid on Call of Duty saying "My dad works for Activision and can get you banned!!"

As such, there is just way too much bad blood between us, and we just can't bring ourselves to want to work with them again, and they are unwilling to work with us again. It sounds "nice" to say "What if we can just put aside our differences and work together!" like it was some Disney movie fight. But the blunt reality is that sometimes, no, people don't always "just get along," and it's best to just let bygones be bygones, and never deal with eachother again. And honestly, at the moment, literally every single member of the server who was there at the time---not just myself, and not just the moderation team, feels the same way. And I am absolutely not crossing their wishes and opinions in this regard. (Honestly, a few of them would be far less polite about this as I am trying to be, and it's really hard for me to keep this polite of a facade. ---because yes, this is me actually holding back again.)

Beyond that, I feel like you are thinking of a far larger scope than what we are currently proposing. I feel like you're proposing a scale of cooperation that, while good on paper, is far too ambitious. It seems like you're proposing scrapping entire sites like the wiki and the subreddit, in favor of just one discord server, and that's just not at all what we're trying to propose, or feel is possible or practical in the real world.

What is being proposed from our side is a friendly cooperative state and partnership between us, where we basically just want to be friends with the wiki, offer use and partnership with it and its fans for basically a chat room to discuss the series in an easier way than a wiki format allows, but of course not tear down and move everything to some other platform. Way simpler, way more down to earth, and way more realistic of a goal than actually comining ALL of the fandom. Our server would have a link on here to make us easier to find and join, your members would gain an active, fun, and engaging community chat room where you can have better and easier conversations, everyone's happy, everyone has a fun time, and we can work on slowly, one by one, working toward bringing other sub sections of the fandom together over the course of, well, years. It took us two years to build up the server from just a message every month or two to literal hundreds in a day, and it took us a further number of months before we were in a position where we could reach out at all to other sections of the community. These things take time, and "Rome wasn't built in a day," after all.