Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-36009152-20190701123255/@comment-36009152-20190720234435

Good observations though like answers underneath the main title explain, worth bearing in mind unseen factors that can come into play such as Shikama Doji being able to be weakened and defeated indirectly (Saito is weaker but seems sure he can capture the first) so Yu could do the same especially if Shinoa regains consciousness inside when fighting Yu or something.

Similarly yes Yu was fighting on par with a fifth progenitor, just as cursed gear is lethal to vampires perhaps seraph Yu has something over a seraph, vampire, demon... thing that Shikama Doji is.

Again all guesswork and lot's of will depends on circumstances scenarios going on.