Board Thread:Chapter Discourse/@comment-44056425-20200106151313/@comment-43971605-20200125125702

Crimson lotus ichinose wrote: Anon·chan wrote: Crimson lotus ichinose wrote:

Anon·chan wrote: Crimson lotus ichinose wrote: I'm sorry but Mika wasn't going to dissapoint! If you will read those chapters where Mika was arguing with Yuu about the world you can see that he DIRECTLY said the ONLY one who he wants to ave is Yuu and he doesn't care about humanity and even more at the end of season 2 he wanted to only run just with Yuu and other humans weren't important to him, seriously Mika is a vampire ok? Vampires have NO emotions or have TOO LESS emotions so cause this they don't care for humans and look at them like livestocks as they don't care for humans! Mika is no different too! Why he should give any care to humans and the world? He himself had said many times that he ONLY wants Yuu so what do we want to deny?

And for Mika I just say he is to be more realistic, what the hell Yuu is a full DEMON but he doesn't care! He even doesn't care for his own EXPLANTION, if it is not obssesing then I don't know the meaning od obssessing maybe

And about Guren, listen can we remember that Shikama had used him for what on dark ages? And you think Guren is doing the same? Then sorry he doesn't doing the same! Yuu was copletely aware of the experiments after the first time and WILLINGLY helped and still wants to help Guren although Shikama did that more terribely without him wanting but anyway I am nottalking about Guren although even the first time that Guren turned Yuu to a seraph that was all for the sake of the world and  even furtheremore just like what he said on chapter 77 is to save him and whatever it is Guren's goal is a GOOD one not like what Shikama's goal was, but anyway I'm not here to talk about this I'm here to say that: Dear Mika, when you say something, then please be a man and stay on your own words and don't deny something you said YOURSELF when the one who is important to you is going to do this is childish dear Oh boy...

Just because Mika wants to save Yu and doesnt really care about anyone else, does not mean he wants and/or doesnt care for another world destruction happening. Theres a GREAT difference between those two things. Those said chapters ALSO make that clear. Even then, while Mika might not care about anyone else, he doesnt wish harm for anyone else, either. And the anime isnt canon...wait, the end of cour 2? In episode 24, after Mika was HURT, possibly dying, Mika told Yu to leave him so Yu can save the Shinoa squad.

Crimson lotus ichinose wrote: Vampires have NO emotions or have TOO LESS emotions so cause this they don't care for humans and look at them like livestocks as they don't care for humans! Mika is no different too! While Mika may be a vampire, he has shown that he hates being a vampire and holding livestock. He thinks he's a monster and full of self-hate. Besides, Mika hasnt lost all of his emotions, he retains some for Yu. You are ignoring all of this well-known information. Mika is different, sorry.

Now that you mention the emotion thing, your argument wanes. Mika cant grow to like anyone--that includes Guren. None of this is Mika's fault anyway.

Crimson lotus ichinose wrote: Why he should give any care to humans and the world? Because Mika isnt a fool that only cares about himself and his own needs.

Crimson lotus ichinose wrote: And for Mika I just say he is to be more realistic, what the hell Yuu is a full DEMON but he doesn't care! He even doesn't care for his own EXPLANTION, if it is not obssesing then I don't know the meaning od obssessing maybe Mika does care. He has complained about it to Yu many times. Either you missed or ignored those moments. I'd like to remind you that Mika is not friends with Yu's demon personality.

Crimson lotus ichinose wrote: And about Guren, listen can we remember that Shikama had used him for what on dark ages? And you think Guren is doing the same? Then sorry he doesn't doing the same! Yuu was copletely aware of the experiments after the first time and WILLINGLY helped and still wants to help Guren although Shikama did that more terribely without him wanting but anyway I am nottalking about Guren although even the first time that Guren turned Yuu to a seraph that was all for the sake of the world and even furtheremore just like what he said on chapter 77 is to save him and whatever it is Guren's goal is a GOOD one not like what Shikama's goal was. I never meant Guren was doing the same. He obviously isnt, i know he has a good goal in mind. Just that he ended up using Yu much later. And put yourself in Mika's shoes for one second. While yes, Yu was willing, these experiments have caused great harm to Yu and even almost killed him. Yu is also very reckless and easy to manipulate which Guren took advantage of. And, Guren's plan could cause another disaster. Regardless of Guren's reasoning, i'd be on much edge too. Also trust is earned.

Crimson lotus ichinose wrote: But anyway I'm not here to talk about this I'm here to say that: Dear Mika, when you say something, then please be a man and stay on your own words and don't deny something you said YOURSELF when the one who is important to you is going to do this is childish dear Mika is a 16 like me, a child. Being childish is a normal and natural thing from us. He has stayed on his words for the most part too. It's good that you finally found out that how much this is childish yes this is really childish to even ignore your own explantions

Even Kagami sensei himself had said that Mika's true wish is to be with Yuu forever as well he is his only family and it is understandable but the truth is that unfortunatelly he is a vampire and as much as he can't stay in front of his desires for bllod he can't stay in front of his emotionanless about the world, this is his nature and is unchangable whethere we like it or not and yes Mika can be mad with Guren about Yuu but why when Guren tried to inform him about Saito he didn't start to understand? Crowley is a vampire too but when he heared Guren's story and the fact that he destroyed the world he didn't run to kill him!! Calling me and my explanations childish do not make me wrong.

Its definitely true in what Kagami said, but that's obviously NOT the way he meant it. There may be a way to change him back, btw. This is manga, anything's possible. Crowley didn't run to kill Guren because he had nothing personal against him. Mika had something personal against him--using his friend and started something that caused a LOT of people to suffer. Guren can explain, but he has actually never done so with Mika yet. No "maybe", he should just do it. But he hasn't. That's Guren's own fault. Like S3r0-Ph1i said too, there's really no time to care about these issues.

And AGAIN: Mika doesn't want the world to be destroyed no matter how emotionless he is towards it. ...WTF

Do you even read my massages here properlly? When did I call your ideas childish?

I SAID THAT MIKA SAY A FUCK AND THEN HE HIMSELF DENY THAT FUCK CAUSE HIS DEAR YUU-CHAN IS DOING THAT IS CHILDISHI YOU UNDERSTOOD??????????

Please first read my massages properlly here and then show me the bad one here ok? I really shocked to see this massage from you, I had though that maybe at least you are a different Mika fan here but yes!!! You are no different too -_____-

And for the last fucking time:

Mika. Is .A. Vampire.

Vampires. Are. Emotionalness. Or. Have. too. less. Emotional. Wether you like it or not but this is THE FUCKING FACT

I don't say that Mika wants the destruction of the world or will be happy by that what I say is that: HE WON'T FEEL SORRY FOR THAT TOO IF SOMEDAY IT WILL HAPPEN AS HE. IS. A. VAMPIRE Well you said: "It's good that you finally found out that how much this is childish yes this is really childish to even ignore your own explantions". I thought you were talking about me and not Mika, which is really my fault for misinterpreting. So, that was my mistake and im sorry.

Okay that's true. You didn't ever say that Mika would be happy or okay with the world being destroyed, and i was wrong. But, i'd like to explain that i actually meant Mika would be okay with world destruction as long as it was Yu who did it (which he wouldn't), not in general. It again was my own fault for not making that more clear (cause i didn't) and i apologize.

I know Mika is a vampire and losing his emotions, i never denied this fact and i don't remember when i did (unless you count me mentioning that he retains some emotions for Yu). I didnt get that you meant "he wouldn't feel sorry about world destruction because he's emotionless" (if it were ever to happen). But i cant say i agree, and guess that'll be something we'll have to agree to disagree on.

Im sorry for upsetting you like this. This all spiralled outta control. Sorry.