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  • I've been trying to fix the </ref> on Mahiru's page for the last Trivia comment, but no matter how I tried it automatically deletes all the 'Natural Abilities' including the Quotes, if I did so that's nearly 32k bites deleted for a simple fix. Also upon editing Mahiru's page your only limited to the last paragraphs of Shibuya arc, ex. you can't edit the 'Powers and Abilities'  as well as Relationships and Gallery section since it's literally seemed removed from the page even if you tried clicking the 'edit' button on their section it's no use. The only way to edit them is through source mode for unknown reasons and that's a pain since normal editing is much better. I checked other characters all of them works well except for Mahiru. Do you know what's the cause of this?

    I'd appearicate if it was fixed, thanks.

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    • It was the <nowiki> tags that are viewable in source mode, whilst handy for showing examples of code for informative purposes on message walls for example, they work by preventing code from taking effect (like the reference tags, and with one incomplete that's what caused the rest of the text underneath to disappear). The nowiki tags have been removed from the article, is everything you had in mind there?

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    • So that what caused the problem, I didn't know  <nowiki> tags would cause such effects. but it's alright now, thanks!

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  • I thank you for all the good moments we shared, I stopped comming in for personal issues and now that a huge mess came in due to some people signaling me as a guilty person and the grade of toxicity within the fandom; I take my leave, I had fun talking with you along theories and the sorts.

    Thanks for allowing me being here

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    • Well no doubt you can resolve everything! It might be worth being sympathetic to those who feel the need to be negative, and positive acts overcome them regardless. Or stick to the good things you are doing, you are under no obligation to consider non-amazing things. In any case, this remains your base of operations to enjoy yourself since that matters most!

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  • Hello Serofee! Just letting you know publicly that I’m the Wiki Manager assigned to Seraph of the End Wiki, looking forward to working with you!

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  • Hey, I've made up a new idea for image names. I've posted it on image policy, too. Basically, my idea is that we 1. State the source of image first and 2. Describe what's happening in the image. Kinda like this:
     Chapter 36 - Mika bites Yu.png

    This way of naming can help both in terms of name consistency and make it easier for other users like me to make descriptions underneath in galleries. I know, this is a petty ask, still, just wanted to know what you think!

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    • S3r0-Ph1i wrote: Volume 10.png : )

      Wow...that was quick

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    • XD If it’s resolved the pet peeve issue, then good!

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  • Hello S3r0-Ph1i, happy Halloween! I just wanted to ask that would it be okay if we've created a new spoiler policy. Since this community has been growing recently, I think it would be a good idea if we had it, since larger communities (like SNK) also have it. I also think a spoiler poilcy is needed as we should always wait until the official publication of chapters by Viz Media, so we can support the offical release. Thank you in advance.

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    • Same for you, and everyone! Yes a spoiler policy is an excellent plan, must support official release dates and not unwrap presents before the right times... or more appropriately for now, not get tricked with unofficial translations, rather the treat of the actual release XD plus supports the manga best which is vital.

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    • I finished creating it, just so you know!

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    • Ah yes definitely sorry should not leave anything unsaid, and of course everyone's contributions should be praised because they are actually great for real. Fantastic work there, an excellent informative policy to help people, the wiki, and Seraph of the End materials! That's all added to the navigation heading and perfect to share in the event that spoilers do appear!

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    • Thank you! I'm very happy you like it!

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  • Hello Serofee! This is Sukiina; I'd like to talk a little about the image conversion process we discussed a little while earlier.

    As of now, I am uploading pictures in PNG format instead of JPG for easier editing in future, as you have suggested earlier; do you think now would be a good time to start converting the images into PNG?

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    • Hey Hey Sukiina! Good call with the current image uploads, just seeing if a bot can mass convert existing images from .jpg to .png to save doing it manually. Depends whether it wants to work on Fandom's MediaWiki, which process it would be to possible issues that may come up - the usual! So will get back to you on that!

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    • No worries! Please take your time :D I will continue to upload the images in png format when I can (hopefully it'll be done soon! there's so many cards to work on...)

      Thank you so much for going out of your way to do this! I look forward to your reply ^^

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    • It is truly wonderful to see the advancements in the cards so fantastic with your efforts!

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  • There it is created, is anything or something missing?

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    • Haha, but nice you got it all and that looks much better not having the red link on the main page, plus now people may find the next release date!

      Good for an update here for people who would like to acquire the secret Pounce! badge (currently the middle bottom one) for their badge art gallery. The process is create a page then add a separate edit to it right away! Creating chapter pages in preparation, or manga image gallery pages starting at Chapter 70, publishing the new page and editing it before an hour passes will count towards your (hidden, it's really secret like) tally.

      After adding an edit to 100 new pages within an hour of their creation, the badge can be scored! New pages need to be made anyway as new content is revealed and the badges are available, may as well get them and they look nice! : )

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  • Hello!

    I'm Ribble from the mod team for the OnS server that used to align with the wiki, and we're curious how we could align ourselves as the discord server for this wiki again. We've come pretty far as a server and feel like this is the best time to reach out again! The owner CPD reached out a couple of months ago, and we're still really keen!

    So please let me know what we can do going forward! Feel free to get in touch with me on discord as well! I'm Ribble#9615

    Thank you :)

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    • CPD back again. First, a few small points and then a few big ones.

      1. Idk how much you know about server invites links and banners, but they're an auto generated link that we have no control over. That is, unless a whole bunch of people each pay Discord $10 a month just so that we can have a custom link w a custom banner image. (I forget if it's 4 or 6 paid members using a "nitro boodt" to unlock that perk for your server) Naturally that is just not feasible.

      2. As Ribble said, our icon changes to feature a different fanart or official art of a different character each month. This keeps it fresh, and our members love seeing the new image that gets chosen each month. (The mod team takes turns picking the icon for the month) Since our members enjoy it, and have previously stated how much they like it more than a static and non changing icon, I am very reluctant to change that process. It is something that makes us unique, and stand out amongst all of the other servers out there. Additionally, that group image will not look good as an icon. Icons need to be able to crop down to a circle, and look best whenever they're headshots of one character. (Otherwise they're so small that they look like absolute dog crap. On that image, by the time you shrink it and crop it down, you will end up with halves of heads in it, and said halves of heads will be about ten pixels tall. It's als too cluttered, which would also make it look really bad as an icon) Right now it's Lacus bc Ribble wanted a Lacus picture. I believe that next month is Satanas' turn, so he gets to pick it, and it's probably going to be a character that he likes. Then I'll pick October's one, which I usually go for an oddball character that hasn't been featured in a while.

      3. When we link to the manga, we link to the first official English release for the month that we get our hands on. Before they started releasing it regularly in English we had a member or two who would do fan scanlations and post them specifically for us, however after they started releasing official translations quickly there is no need for that. Tbh I am not the one who finds the manga chapters, since I tend to only read it in paper, so I cannot say how legal the sites we use are. However, I will say that several of our members straight up cannot acquire it or otherwise support it legally due to regional issues. (Such as our one Romanian member to whom importing the manga is prohibitively expensive, and the legal sites don't allow his country access) Yay licensing issues! Luckily the members who do have the means to support the series do so.

      4. The bots have their own names and we cannot change them. They're not our bots, and their creators usually specifically lock their permissions so that you cannot change their names. Similarly we actually and actively discourage members, especially the mod team, to have ONS related nicknames. This is bc then you end up with a bunch of people with the same nickname, and it gets super confusing incredibly quickly. We don't go as hard as most servers do and straight up ban using names related to the series, but we still discourage it just so that everyone can keep it straight. (Some days around the release of a new chapter you could end up with about half a dozen Mika's and four Shinoa's running around, and good grief is it hard to tell them apart)

      5. We are working on making the rules look better and be easier to read, including some custom images that I have been slowly working on from the manga. (I am sure that you have seen my welcome image, which is the one that I spent the most time on and am the most proud of.) They should roll out soon.

      Then the big one

      6. It is alright to cut out harsh stuff like the r and c words, the nsfw channel isn't a huge deal and can be removed if needed, and we already have rules against homophobia, racism, and sexism. However, our members have expressed a great disdain for any ban on all profanity, and berween how unhappy that would make them, the fact that the second mod (who hasn't posted here yet) and myself absolutely do not and will not abide a profanity ban, nor can we agree to a full "g rating," (with our members generally being pg-13 and up most of the time) This is absolutely a non-negotiable point, as it would severely alienate our member base and thus absolutley destroy our community. Furthermore, I personally have had nothing but bad experiences before in other servers where people have tried to do similar things, because usually all it does is make the members angry, and chase off new members who feel attacked whenever they come in and are immediately yelled at for it. Finally I cannot in good faith force a rule onto my members and friends that I myself cannot pledge to follow to a T.

      We're certainly not R rated, but we are certainly not ok with going "family friendly" all of the time.

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    • Hi again, server invites, icons, all suggestions to pass around and good to take into account. Other people are obviously more than welcome to share inputs, still whichever works best for you in those areas. However having multiple accounts named after Seraph of the End characters sounds fun! Just got to pay attention to the specifics to know which person you are interacting with XD and truly embracing Seraph of the End having accounts named related to anything in the series is something to promote.

      The Fandom Developers Wiki is where, well things can be developed and their Discord may be helpful if you would like to learn how to create your own bots, indeed any other sweet Discord features. Considering what bots can do it is a good recommendation to have one in your own hands, not to mention they are really cool and learning new areas, one you could use – helpful for you!

      Number 6. The big one, again was throwing suggestions around because why not. Did not recommend a profanity ban at all, if anything a gradual transition to nicer language overall. Not my view, but the right to swear being the only non-negotiable point XD also makes it sound that banning swearing would destroy the community, because everyone is copiously swearing, and would leave the Discord (because Seraph of the End isn’t important to them, they just want to swear) to find another place to do nothing but swear for fun, hahaha, joking.

      That’s fine, again you know what works best and it is only right for me to place trust in yourself, Ribble and others to make it as good as can be. Which I do, again support your attitude but leading through example conduct wise is also good.

      Everything else is fine, do as you please and hope the other Discord examples such as the wiki ones for design ideas, particularly the Developers one for creating things is helpful to gain what you would like.

      I wouldn’t call mine a non-negotiable point, rather a best improvement for everyone, people and series concerning point 3. Sounds like it has already been addressed but guidance that the Discord may only accept official links to buy Seraph of the End content, and not fan translations is I’m sure a welcome suggestion. Links sharing illegally accessed content, or those where content is not paid for? Obviously does not belong on a site out to support Seraph of the End. Licensing is our friend, it ensures creators can receive the finances needed and deserved to continue their great work.

      Understand that everyone is rightfully excited for the newest Seraph of the End content, hence the previous practice of sharing whichever copy is found first. And yet it’s like being excited for a latest console release, indeed physical copy of a Seraph of the End chapter… and being so excited so as to break into the store and steal it before it is officially released and not paying for it. It’s just like presents are not opened before Christmas (or are, but we like the fun ways of living dangerously) so too should people keep it in before official content release dates. People will simply have to save up and buy the content, luckily the largest shopping outlet ever to exist; the Internet should help them with that. If they cannot currently access it, people can describe it to them which could be fun.

      So let’s all remain vigilant for removing illegal copies of content, a polite ”kindly remember official links only!” when removing non-official links should suffice. In addition to the best reasons of purchasing the content to support it, because who would be satisfied with a non-official copy with non-official text (that is so fortunate to be translated to English as well, must never take anything for granted), there is another reason to help pull the rug from under piracy.

      Namely Fandom’s initiative in introducing the Fandom Official Community Partnership Program.

      Whilst not all wikis may be linked, particularly for Seraph of the End where the anime studio may be a possible partner, and there are currently no plans for further anime, it is the principle we can strive for. It is not so much about whether the Seraph of the End Wiki, and your Discord along with it, can be in partnership whether with Viz Media itself on the manga side of things, or a future anime studio, in any case the site shall continue to be an all-covering encyclopedia anyway with appropriate licensing and content used for informative purposes only.

      What are we to do if hypothetically speaking a potential partner, or anyone saw people placing a flashing target on the wiki with links to illegal content. Anyone could rightfully raise that there are areas that support access to full and pirated copies of the manga which fall outside the doctrine of fairuse, and why would we risk that for the wiki/Discord or even think of doing that to the series we love? Again, we are all fans and we support the series, not sap it by robbing it of revenue, satisfied with a blurred perspective of the series. Besides as you say easier now with Viz’s moves to combat piracy by making the chapters available earlier so that’s largely settled with only having official links for the manga, anime, novels, everything.

      Has it been a long haul? Good, always nice to get things right and that’s what we shall do. This Discord Policy page is set to join the other policy documents on the wiki. My Hero Academia has quirky additions to the guidelines, so write the guidelines and practices you would like!

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  • So did you check all the pictures of chapter 81 that I uploaded? Is it better now? Like I mean all the cropping instead of the whole page.

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    • All in all… they are looking… more than superb! Excellent going for gathering and preparing them, they are perfect and much better when broken up into specific happenings rather than a whole page so more image can be visible and descriptions can cover each point.

      Yes they are fantastic, for next time we can make things even easier! First you are right not to be concerned about the panel lines, getting the full subject of the image is more important. So later if something like this magnificent shot is found, it could be cropped so the edges and the top of Shinoa’s wings are be visible (there will likely be other images later so don’t worry about re-uploading if it is too much). Yes panel lines and even parts of other images may show but the purpose is to get the full shot of Shinoa's wings in this case for all to behold and love.

      It is a minor area but with images like this there were a few micro millimetres of Saito and Shinoa’s clothing at the bottom of the image, but again if the cropping tool does not permit for that, never mind having the image in some form is best as it is now.

      Chapter 81 – Page 17

      Shinoa's seraph wings

      More easier methods; let’s name images where they are from so people may find them, for example Shinoa angelic wings.png could be named Chapter 81 – Page 17, and then ‘Shinoa’s angelic/seraph wings’ could be the description underneath the image like this so both may provided. People can think oh that looks lovely, click the image to find out where it is from in the title, and an at a glance view of what is happening directly underneath the image so it's extra ideal.

      Panels in manga of course are read right to left, top to bottom so this one would be Chapter 81 – Page – 16 – Panel 1 (& 2 if wanted, just allows two images to not have the same name as well) and this one on the same page; Chapter 81 – Page 16 – Panel 3. (This is an idea for images uploaded in the future, no need to rename the ones already named and uploaded, yes there are redirects but changing in source mode the name of the image to match the rename is another task on top of renaming images that already have titles - they are legible and that counts most rather than renaming Chapter 81 - pg 3, or chptr 81-page 2 - we have a title, what is 'perfect' changes, it's good!)

      All in all, once again you have done fantastic, when and if you are able, was thinking of placing requests for certain panels the wiki must have since you are an excellent image provider!

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    • I see, I get the general idea but all the images I uploaded can't be renamed now? for example for future chapters I'll rename them the way you told me.

      Also for the cropping edges, top. bottom. right, left etc. like you want them 100% since it's extremely hard to do so as with Shinoa wings but I'll try my best if that is possible.

      One more thing about the renaming, since I never renamed an image before It'd be helpful if you showed me how to.

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    • Renaming images is the same as renaming a page with the drop down arrow next to Edit but with the images already uploaded with names, no need to be concerned with renaming them. Just like with this Chapter 81 - Page 17 if it is renamed there, kind of a need to go onto the page and replace the old image name in source mode with the new one. Renaming changes the image title but creates a redirect on the page it is on and so the old name remains in the article code. In short renaming can be messy business, especially for all the images on the wiki, where there may be changing standards of what a good image name is. Essentially if it has a legible name, good and keeping all the lovely names, and simply beginning as we mean to go on with future names as Chapter 81 – Page 17 for example is best.

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    • Okay, thanks very much for explaining, I get it now.

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  • Hi, I was wondering if you can delete File:Mika yu.png and File:Shinyasword.png files? They're older versions of: File:LN Mahiru and the orphans.png and File:LN Ichinose Squad defeats their first vampire.png.

    I can easily reupload the older ones in higher quality, in fact i tried that while ago, but because of these images, i wasn't able to (why, i don't know).

    Thank you in advance.

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    • Heya, thank you for very helpfully noting images that are candidates for deletion, yet here should File:Mika yu.png and File:Shinyasword.png both be kept and used on the articles since they currently have the higher quality?

      As for the images not uploading might be worth contacting staff on the replacement for Special:Contact (this  Zendesk or by sending a regular email to community@wikia.com ) with details on what is not going right with the uploads. The only thing it might be is that .jpg images are unable to overwrite .png images and vice versa. If not that, then it could be bug territory in which case hopefully staff can help narrow down an issue that might just be affecting yourself right now.

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